by Thott

Updated Monday, September 2 at 1:30pm CDT 2002


Each hybrid class (for the purposes of this document, hybrid means bards, rangers, shadow knights and beastlords, but not paladins) is part melee and part caster.  It's the combination of these two sides that makes up the class, be it for damage output or damage mitigation/avoidance.  Hybrids improve damage through spells such as:
  • Nukes
  • Atk buffs
  • Damage shields
  • DoT's
  • Pets
  • Haste
  • etc.
Some of these are self only, some affect others.  Melee+spells=total hybrid damage output.

Hybrids also use spells to increase their defensive capability, such as:

  • AC buffs
  • Regen buffs/heals
  • Debuffs (-atk, slow, stuns, etc.)
  • HP buffs
  • etc.
Like damage done, it's the base defense of the class (armor worn, defense skill, dodge/parry/riposte, etc.) plus the above magical support that make up total defensive capability.

AA Cost for Power Gained

Hybrids and pure melee classes share the same archtype AA's.  The cost for hybrids is identical to the cost for a pure class, yet power gain is less.  Hybrids pay for a howitzer, but get a popgun.

Combat Fury adds a chance to crit with every melee attack.  Bards, for example, do 50% of their damage through melee, and the other 50% through songs (either directly with DoT's, or indirectly with buffs).  Thus bards get half the power gain from Combat Fury as a rogue/monk/warrior does, since the percentage of melee gain is the same for all.  Combat Fury doesn't improve song/spell damage, so in the end, bards (and all hybrids) fall behind.  Despite the fact the AA adds less to a hybrid, the cost is the same.

The same is true for any AA, for any hybrid.  Spell Casting Fury 3 gives a 7% chance to crit with any nuke.  A wizard gains a 7% increase in total damage output by purchasing this AA.  Hybrids gain far, far less, yet the cost is the same.  Even if some mythical hybrid did all of their magical damage through direct damage nukes, it would still be just the magical side of the class that gained power from this AA, not magic+melee.  Since such a hybrid doesn't exist, the real power gain is even less - yet the cost is the same for a ranger as it is for a wizard.

Defensive AA's, such as Combat Stability, Combat Agility, and Natural Durability, seem better balanced, but as mentioned above, a significant portion of hybrid defensive ability is tied up in spells.  There are no AA's that increase the AC given by a self AC buff.  There are no AA's that increase the ATK removed by an ATK debuff.  The innate boost to defensive capability is the same for a warrior as it is for a hybrid, but the total gain by a hybrid, percentage wise, is less.  Despite the smaller gain, the cost is the same.

Consider, as an example, a hybrid that has 10% of their tanking ability tied up in spells of one kind or another and the other 90% is innate ability (defense skill, dodge/parry/riposte, AC/HP, etc.).  For this example, lets assume the total tanking ability, taking into account buffs, debuffs, etc., is equivalent to an unbuffed warrior.  That warrior will gain a straight up 10% bonus from their defensive AA's, putting them at 110% of where they were originally.  The hybrid will only gain 10% of their innate tanking ability, or 9% overall, making their new total 109%.  Thus the, apparently fair, percentage increase to innate tanking ability ultimately penalizes the hybrid.  Naturally, the cost is the same.

While it's true that in a full raid situation, many of the self buffs and mob debuffs wielded by a hybrid are no longer useful (which has always been a problem for hybrids), some still are, such as the ranger coat series, SK AC taps, etc.

Total Power Gain

Cost alone doesn't always give the full picture.  Total power is also important.

There are two damage increasing archtype AA's: Combat Fury and Spell Casting Fury.  If a hybrid were to gain both of them, then the total damage output would theoretically increase like a wizard for the spell casting side, and like a warrior for the melee side.  Twice the AA points spent, but equal damage improvement.  Unfortunately, it doesn't work this way.

No hybrid class does 100% of their spell damage through direct nukes.  Check the list above: hybrids do some of their damage with nukes, but a significant portion comes from other things on the list, such as DoT's, damage shields, pets, etc.  Combat Fury does nothing for these things.

As a plus Spell Casting Fury increase DD proc damage by 7%.  Running the numbers on myself, using an acrylia handled broadsword, Spell Casting Fury 3 gave me a total damage increase of .35%.  It should give me an percentage increase equal to half the increase from Combat Fury, but it doesn't - and even if it did, the cost would still be double what a pure class pays.  It certainly doesn't give a large enough increase for a bard, SK or beastlord, since these classes nuke little in comparison, and it's clear that increased procs alone don't make up the difference.

There are healing AA's for some hybrids that help increase their healing capability, which when combined with the innate melee AA's should give a balanced overall boost to defensive capability.  Unfortunately not all hybrids rely on healing, and not all hybrids get the healing AA's, such as SK's and bards.  It also does nothing for AC buffs, debuffs, etc.

Bards, rangers and beastlords get the Ambidexterity class AA, which increases dual wield percentage.  For a bard, doing 50% of their damage through melee, this results in 50% gain compared to a pure melee.  Beastlords do a significant portion of their damage through their pet, yet the pet gains nothing from Ambidexterity.  Even rangers, who gain more from this AA than any other hybrid, still gain less than a pure melee, because a significant portion of ranger damage is through spells.

The conclusion here is that total power is not higher for a hybrid.  In fact, total power gain is less - for double the price.

The Original Fix

To solve this problem, SOE decided to add two special hybrid-only AA's, Physical Enhancement (PE) and Body and Mind Rejuvenation.  PE adds 2% hp, mitigation, and avoidance, the same as level 1 in Natural Durability, Combat Stability and Combat Agility.  This is designed to compensate for the lost defensive capability as discussed above.

Rejuvenation adds 1 extra mana/hp regen per tick, which I suspect was supposed to help lower the total cost for hp/mana regen for hybrids by allowing them to buy this 5 point AA instead of paying 12 points for level 3 in each of the archtype AA's.  However, since some fool decided that the two regen archtype AA's should be level 3...this AA serves no useful purpose at all.

These AA's don't solve the Hybrid AA Problem.  They make the Cost problem worse, and only help partially in the Total Power area, but that's all hybrids got with Luclin.

Reopened Problem

With no attention being paid to AA's in general, there wasn't much hybrids could do about this.  Hybrids just comforted themselves with the fact that they had 2% more total hp when fully raid buffed.

All that is about to change.  On test, all melees can now buy PE.  The one small perk in exhange for massive amounts of additional time invested is now gone.  Hybrids are now screwed in every way when it comes to AA's, with no benefit of any kind.

If hybrids had overall superior class AA's relative to all non-hybrids, there might be some value in punishing hybrids at the archtype level.  But beastlords, bards and SK's certainly don't have superior AA's, and rangers aren't significantly better to all classes.  There's no excuse for hybrids to pay a 100% AA penalty for less power.  It's broken, and needs fixing.

A Better Fix

The easy solution at this point is to remove PE from other classes on test, before it goes live, and preserve the status quo.  Hear no evil, see no evil.

A better fix though is to go through and revalue every archtype AA based on the class that is buying it.  Thus Combat Fury might cost 10 total points for an SK instead of 12.  For a bard it may only cost 6.  Ambidexterity for a pure melee would stay 9, but perhaps only 8 for a ranger, 6-7 for a beastlord, and 4-5 for a bard.

Alternately, archtype AA's could be redone completely for hybrids, such that hybrids had 7 archtype AA's to gain, just like pure classes, and the 7 gave the same total class power to hybrids as 7 give now to pure classes.  Add a little code to Ambidexterity to give a bigger bonus based on class, and scale it highest for bards, second highest for beastlords, etc., and the problem is solved.

Is this easy?  Nope.  My guess is no code was written during Luclin to manage AA's.  Thus there are probably no utilities of any kind they can use to change the system, to unspend points or change point values.  Since the AA code was written nearly a year go, they'll have to spend time refamiliarizing themselves with it before writing these utilities.  Because of poor planning during Luclin, it will be more painful to make things right now.

The other option for them is to just ignore the whole thing.  Give PE to the pretty classes, and pretend hybrids don't exist.  All it takes is apathy on the part of hybrids, and the problem will just "go away".

NEW! All Hybrids - Except Paladins

All of the above applies to all hybrids - except paladins.  Why not paladins?  Unlike other hybrids, paladin damage is almost entirely done with melee.  Thus any AA that increases melee damage percentage, by the same percentage for a paladin as it does for a warrior, is balanced, because the AA increases total damage by the same percentage for both classes.

For those not paying attention before, all other hybrids do damage with melee+spells, so a same percentage increase in just melee is not a fair damage increase overall.

Healing (and increased buff duration, since it affects healing spells) AA's are in general better than damage oriented AA's, because there is no class that does nothing but heal except clerics - and CH is unaffected by healing AA's.  In practice, paladins heal just as much a druids and shamans.  There's no difference, in terms of benefit from AA, between a shaman soloing with torpor up and a paladin soloing with CC.  Thus the gain for a paladin from healing AA's is the same, overall, as if rangers gained 7% overall class damage output from Spell Casting Mastery, just like any magic based class (except for DoT casters - who get screwed in general. Crits should affect DoT's!).

Since the CC recast delay is 30 seconds, and CC without AA doesn't last 30 seconds, yet CC with AA does, the gain for a paladin is actually higher than the gain for a shaman.

With paladin Cost for Power Gained being equal to a pure class, paladins may actually be too powerful, since their Total Power Gain is higher.